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Katia<br>
<br>
No hice todavía ninguna modificación, quiero estar seguro que eso es
todo lo que hay que modificar<br>
Porque si salen mensajes de error y no entiendo el motivo
seguramente voy a morir de un ataque de angustia<br>
<br>
saludos<br>
Ernesto Spinak<br>
<br>
<br>
El 17/05/2012 16:50, Ana Katia Camilo escribió:
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fez
está alteração e testou o sistema? Esta aparecendo alguma
mensagem de erro?</span><br>
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<span style="font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;"></span></font></font><span><font
style="font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="3">Abraços<br>
</font><span><font style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana, helvetica,
sans-serif" size="3">Ana Kátia Camilo<br>
Analista de Sistemas, DS/MTI<br>
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<hr id="zwchr"><b>De: </b>"spinaker"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:spinaker@adinet.com.uy"><spinaker@adinet.com.uy></a><br>
<b>Para: </b>"Ana Katia Camilo" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:katia.camilo@bireme.org"><katia.camilo@bireme.org></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"Francisco J D M Lopes Santos"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:francisco.lopes@bireme.org"><francisco.lopes@bireme.org></a>, "reddes bvs-tech"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:reddes.bvs-tech@listas.bireme.br"><reddes.bvs-tech@listas.bireme.br></a><br>
<b>Enviadas: </b>Quinta-feira, 17 de Maio de 2012 15:33:59<br>
<b>Assunto: </b>Re: [Reddes.bvs-tech] LILACS - subcampos de
afililiacion<br>
<br>
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Katia<br>
<br>
es claro que hay que crear los mensajes de error, modificar la
FST y la PFT<br>
La pregunta clave es si en el momento de ingreso, para control
del sistema, es suficiente con modificar el formato que indico
abajo agregando las líneas en vermelho, o hay algun otro control
que no conozco<br>
<br>
gracias<br>
Ernesto Spinak<br>
<br>
<br>
El 17/05/2012 15:30, Ana Katia Camilo escribió:
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cite="mid:1494945915.318471.1337279415947.JavaMail.root@pombo.bireme.br">
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<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color:
#000000"><span style="font-family:
verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;">Spinak e Franscico.</span><br>
<br>
<font style="font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;"
size="3">Esse é o formato de controle de entrada de dados
do LILDBI-WEB somente para ver se o documentalista colocou
mais de uma vez o mesmo subcampo no campo ou se tem ponto
final ou espaço em branco no final do campo. <br>
Para aparecer a mensagem de erro também será necessário
criar as mensagens <b><font color="#cc0000">AFFILIATION4
e </font></b><b><font color="#cc0000">AFFILIATION5 </font></b><font
color="#cc0000"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">no
sistema e também incluir os subcampos no assis, nos
formatos de saída (pfts) e na fst e nos LILACS.def do
iaH do LILDBI-WEB se quiser índice de pesquisa.</span></font></font><br>
<font style="font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;"
size="3"><br>
</font><span><font style="font-family:
verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;" size="3">Por favor, se
for enviar este registro para a LILACS faça o
"reformateo" necessário seguindo a metodologia LILACS.<br>
<br>
Atenciosamente<br>
<span></span></font><span><font style="FONT-FAMILY:
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<b>Enviadas: </b>Quinta-feira, 17 de Maio de 2012 13:05:19<br>
<b>Assunto: </b>Re: [Reddes.bvs-tech] LILACS - subcampos de
afililiacion<br>
<br>
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<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color:
#000000">Spinak,<br>
<br>
A mi me parece que debes revisar el formateo, algo como:<br>
<br>
<b><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"> if
s(mpu,v5[1].1,mpl)='S' and v4004[1] = 'Y' and a(v10^1)
and v113[1]='p' then '^mAFFILIATION^d',v10,<br>
else<br>
if
instr(mid(mid(v10,instr(v10,'^1'),size(v10)),3,size(v10)),'^1')>0
then '^mAFFILIATION1^d',v10, /fi<br>
if
instr(mid(mid(v10,instr(v10,'^2'),size(v10)),3,size(v10)),'^2')>0
then '^mAFFILIATION2^d',v10, /fi<br>
if
instr(mid(mid(v10,instr(v10,'^3'),size(v10)),3,size(v10)),'^3')>0
then '^mAFFILIATION3^d',v10, /fi<br>
</font></b><b><font face="Courier New, Courier,
monospace"> <font color="#cc0000">if
instr(mid(mid(v10,instr(v10,'^4'),size(v10)),3,size(v10)),'^4')>0
then '^mAFFILIATION4^d',v10, /fi<br>
</font></font></b><b><font face="Courier New, Courier,
monospace"><font color="#cc0000"> if
instr(mid(mid(v10,instr(v10,'^5'),size(v10)),3,size(v10)),'^5')>0
then '^mAFFILIATION5^d',v10, /fi</font><br>
</font></b><b><font face="Courier New, Courier,
monospace"> if
instr(mid(mid(v10,instr(v10,'^r'),size(v10)),3,size(v10)),'^r')>0
then '^mAFFILIATIONr^d',v10, /fi<br>
if
instr(mid(mid(v10,instr(v10,'^p'),size(v10)),3,size(v10)),'^p')>0
then '^mAFFILIATIONp^d',v10, /fi<br>
if
instr(mid(mid(v10,instr(v10,'^c'),size(v10)),3,size(v10)),'^c')>0
then '^mAFFILIATIONc^d',v10, /fi<br>
/fi<br>
if right(v10^1,1) = '.' then '^mPOINT^d'v10^1
fi,<br>
if right(v10^2,1) = '.' then '^mPOINT^d'v10^2
fi,<br>
if right(v10^3,1) = '.' then '^mPOINT^d'v10^3
fi,</font></b><b><font face="Courier New, Courier,
monospace"><br>
<font color="#cc0000">if right(v10^<span style="color:
rgb(102, 51, 0);">4</span>,1) = '.' then
'^mPOINT^d'v10^4 fi,<br>
</font></font></b><font color="#cc0000"><b><font
face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">if right(v10^<span
style="color: rgb(102, 51, 51);">5</span>,1) = '.'
then '^mPOINT^d'v10^5 fi,</font></b></font><br>
<b><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">
if right(v10^p,1) = '.' then '^mPOINT^d'v10^p fi, <br>
if right(v10^c,1) = '.' then '^mPOINT^d'v10^c
fi,<br>
if right(v10^1,1) = ' ' then '^mSPACE^d'v10^1
fi,<br>
if right(v10^2,1) = ' ' then '^mSPACE^d'v10^2
fi,<br>
if right(v10^3,1) = ' ' then '^mSPACE^d'v10^3
fi,<br>
</font></b><font color="#cc0000"><b><font face="Courier
New, Courier, monospace">if right(v10^<span
style="color: rgb(102, 51, 0);">4</span>,1) = ' '
then '^mSPACE^d'v10^4 fi,<br>
</font></b><b><font face="Courier New, Courier,
monospace">if right(v10^<span style="color: rgb(102,
51, 0);">5</span>,1) = ' ' then '^mSPACE^d'v10^5
fi,</font></b></font><br>
<b><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">
if right(v10^c,1) = ' ' then '^mSPACE^d'v10^c fi,<br>
if right(v10^p,1) = ' ' then '^mSPACE^d'v10^p
fi,</font></b><br>
<br>
No estoy seguro, pero Katia nos puede ayudar en eso.<br>
<br>
Saludos<br>
Francisco<br>
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<b>Enviadas: </b>Quinta-feira, 17 de Maio de 2012
12:33:26<br>
<b>Assunto: </b>Re: [Reddes.bvs-tech] LILACS - subcampos
de afililiacion<br>
<br>
Francisco<br>
<br>
Entiendo la explicación<br>
La información que me falta es si la modificación que
sugiero a mi campo de control es suficiente o es neceario
considerar alguna otra cosa que ignoro<br>
<br>
gracias<br>
Ernesto Spinak<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
El 17/05/2012 12:15, Francisco J D M Lopes Santos
escribió:
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<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color:
#000000">Hola Spinak,<br>
Hola todos,<br>
<br>
Esta customização não causa maiores problemas,
lembrando que, em se tratando de personalizações
individuais, cada um deve efetuar as alterações por
sua própria conta e risco.<br>
<br>
No caso, os subcampos adicionais serão ignorados no
momento de incorporação à LILACS na BIREME, assim a
informação dos subcampos adicionais seria perdida o
que indica ser ótimo reformatar o conjunto de
subcampos 3, 4, e 5 para o subcampo 3 antes do envio à
BIREME, sem esquecer que os conteúdos são delimitados
pelo caractere ponto (.) da forma prevista na
metodologia LILACS.<br>
<br>
Não imagino outra forma 'livre de programação' para
cumprir seu objetivo.<br>
<br>
Saludos desde São Paulo<br>
Francisco José Lopes<br>
<br>
<br>
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<b>Enviadas: </b>Segunda-feira, 14 de Maio de 2012
8:53:07<br>
<b>Assunto: </b>[Reddes.bvs-tech] LILACS - subcampos
de afililiacion<br>
<br>
Estimados<br>
<br>
La Facultad de Medicina tiene exigencias de estudios
bibliometricos y cienciometricos por causa de la
acreditación de la facultad, y esto debe ser en
caracter permanente.<br>
Por ese motivo requiere, entro otros valores, un
análisis de la productividad de los autores asociado a
sus instituciones.<br>
Para generar las estadisticas usamos los elementos de
"afiliación" en los subcampos ^1, ^2, ^3<br>
El problema es que el nivel de granularidad (tres
niveles) no es suficiente para generar las tablas
necesarias, <br>
y de acuerdo a la normalización que se ha realizado en
las cátedras, hospital, etc. sería necesario cinco
niveles por lo menos.<br>
o sea agregar los subcampos ^4, ^5<br>
<br>
<b>Pregunta:</b><br>
Si agregamos los subcampos ^4 y ^5 a los campos v10,
v16, v23, entonces debemos modificar además de la
definción del campo el formato de control que sigue
(para cada campo)<br>
<hr size="2" width="100%"><b><font face="Courier New,
Courier, monospace"><br>
if s(mpu,v5[1].1,mpl)='S' and v4004[1] =
'Y' and a(v10^1) and v113[1]='p' then
'^mAFFILIATION^d',v10,<br>
else<br>
if
instr(mid(mid(v10,instr(v10,'^1'),size(v10)),3,size(v10)),'^1')>0
then '^mAFFILIATION1^d',v10, /fi<br>
if
instr(mid(mid(v10,instr(v10,'^2'),size(v10)),3,size(v10)),'^2')>0
then '^mAFFILIATION2^d',v10, /fi<br>
if
instr(mid(mid(v10,instr(v10,'^3'),size(v10)),3,size(v10)),'^3')>0
then '^mAFFILIATION3^d',v10, /fi<br>
</font></b><b><font face="Courier New, Courier,
monospace"> <font color="#cc0000">if
instr(mid(mid(v10,instr(v10,'^4'),size(v10)),3,size(v10)),'^4')>0
then '^mAFFILIATION4^d',v10, /fi<br>
</font></font></b><b><font face="Courier New,
Courier, monospace"><font color="#cc0000"> if
instr(mid(mid(v10,instr(v10,'^5'),size(v10)),3,size(v10)),'^5')>0
then '^mAFFILIATION5^d',v10, /fi</font><br>
</font></b><b><font face="Courier New, Courier,
monospace"> if
instr(mid(mid(v10,instr(v10,'^r'),size(v10)),3,size(v10)),'^r')>0
then '^mAFFILIATIONr^d',v10, /fi<br>
if
instr(mid(mid(v10,instr(v10,'^p'),size(v10)),3,size(v10)),'^p')>0
then '^mAFFILIATIONp^d',v10, /fi<br>
if
instr(mid(mid(v10,instr(v10,'^c'),size(v10)),3,size(v10)),'^c')>0
then '^mAFFILIATIONc^d',v10, /fi<br>
/fi<br>
if right(v10^1,1) = '.' then
'^mPOINT^d'v10^1 fi,<br>
if right(v10^2,1) = '.' then
'^mPOINT^d'v10^2 fi,<br>
if right(v10^3,1) = '.' then
'^mPOINT^d'v10^3 fi,</font></b><b><font
face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"><br>
<font color="#cc0000">if right(v10^3,1) = '.' then
'^mPOINT^d'v10^4 fi,<br>
</font></font></b><font color="#cc0000"><b><font
face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">if
right(v10^3,1) = '.' then '^mPOINT^d'v10^5 fi,</font></b></font><br>
<b><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">
if right(v10^p,1) = '.' then '^mPOINT^d'v10^p fi,
<br>
if right(v10^c,1) = '.' then
'^mPOINT^d'v10^c fi,<br>
if right(v10^1,1) = ' ' then
'^mSPACE^d'v10^1 fi,<br>
if right(v10^2,1) = ' ' then
'^mSPACE^d'v10^2 fi,<br>
if right(v10^3,1) = ' ' then
'^mSPACE^d'v10^3 fi,<br>
</font></b><font color="#cc0000"><b><font
face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">if
right(v10^3,1) = ' ' then '^mSPACE^d'v10^4 fi,<br>
</font></b><b><font face="Courier New, Courier,
monospace">if right(v10^3,1) = ' ' then
'^mSPACE^d'v10^5 fi,</font></b></font><br>
<b><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">
if right(v10^c,1) = ' ' then '^mSPACE^d'v10^c fi,<br>
if right(v10^p,1) = ' ' then
'^mSPACE^d'v10^p fi,</font></b><br>
<hr size="2" width="100%"><b>Preguntas</b>:<br>
<ul>
<li>¿Es esto suficiente o hay alguna cosa adicional
para corregir?</li>
<li>¿Es necesario al enviar los registros a Bireme
hacer un reformateo y generar ^3+^4+^5 como un
solo subfield ^3 ?</li>
<li>Si no modificamos los subcampos: ¿hay alguna
otra forma de generar tablas a 5 columnas sin
necesidad de intervernir un programador cada vez?</li>
</ul>
Saludos<br>
Ernesto Spinak<br>
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